are extractions inevitable in this case? is MSE worth it considering its cons?

[hopecel]

I've got a subhuman (8 teeth if matters) smile so it's priority for me to fix it now via braces but... are teeth extractions the only way to decent smile in my case?

will it inevitably fuck up my face and recess me?

is it better to put MSE on regardless of its cons (nose widening & teeth gaps) rather than having teeth extractions?


btw I'm 20 yo


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[hopecel]

I actually don't know if the orthodontist could even put MSE on considering my brutal crowding

 

[hopecel]

@mvp2v1 @the BULL @ConfusedBolivian @IAMNOTANINCEL

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Who cared about a fucking decent smile, usseless

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Just fix only you teeths with no extractions or palate expanders

 

[mvp2v1]

@mvp2v1 @the BULL @ConfusedBolivian @IAMNOTANINCEL

there are many ways of fixing this. Go get EASE, or get FME for example. Where are you located?

 

[hopecel]

Who cared about a fucking decent smile, usseless

my smile is really subhuman-tier

I've got a 3.5mm gap between central and lateral incisor which is a truecel trait ngl

Just fix only you teeths with no extractions or palate expanders

but how? my crowding is death-tier

there's no space as you can see

there are many ways of fixing this. Go get EASE, or get FME for example. Where are you located?

Balkan, idk if such expanders are available here also how much do they cost?

I'm broke Jeffrey ngl the most I can spend on teeth correction is 1-1.5k euros

 

[DR. NICKGA]

but how? my crowding is death-tier

there's no space as you can see

Don"t matter

 

[hopecel]

Don"t matter

I mean is it possible to wear braces in such cases? I doubt it

 

[DR. NICKGA]

I mean is it possible to wear braces in such cases? I doubt it

Yea it is

 

[hopecel]

Yea it is

I barely can touch my second premolar from outside

how can braces be put on such tooth?

 

[mvp2v1]

teeth correction is 1-1.5k euros

that wont be enough. you would need around 10k. that's what I spent for biobloc.

 

[hopecel]

that wont be enough. you would need around 10k. that's what I spent for biobloc.

over

most likely gonna have extractions then did biobloc help you?

also do you think thumbpulling can help me in this case? I've seen results in cheekbones and jaw but palate expansion hasn't been significant until now (I'm doing it inconsistently for 1.5 years) ngl

look at this user I wish I could achieve such results with that: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-thumb-pulled-for-6-months-straight-here-are-my-results.268619/

 

[mvp2v1]

over

most likely gonna have extractions then did biobloc help you?

also do you think thumbpulling can help me in this case? I've seen results in cheekbones and jaw but palate expansion hasn't been significant until now (I'm doing it inconsistently for 1.5 years) ngl

look at this user I wish I could achieve such results with that: https://looksmax.org/threads/i-thumb-pulled-for-6-months-straight-here-are-my-results.268619/

yeah I've seen that post. I personally tried thumbpulling but couldn't maintain the results overnight and thus didn't make any progress despite an hour of pulling daily for 3 months. (there is an argument to be made that thumbpulling results are compounding and as such it takes a while to start getting small results but every marginal result increases in magnitude...) Regardless I ended up taking the safe route and getting biobloc, which has been a big success for me. I;ve expanded about ~3-4mm so far and my midface is noticeably wider, cheekbones expanded laterally etc. My nasal breathing is notably better now, I used to wake up every day with a stuffed nose (and as the air in my room is dry all the mucus would be dry and I would have to pick at it in order to breath well) and now I never experience that.
I still have another 3mm to go. Since I'm long distance the treatment has been a little more rocky then usual. If I could go back in time I would have learned how to tighten the appliance right from the start. for the first couple months I was not tightening it and as such I had gotten less expansion then I should have and flared out teeth. Since correcting that expansion has been much faster and without flaring.

 

[hopecel]

yeah I've seen that post. I personally tried thumbpulling but couldn't maintain the results overnight and thus didn't make any progress despite an hour of pulling daily for 3 months. (there is an argument to be made that thumbpulling results are compounding and as such it takes a while to start getting small results but every marginal result increases in magnitude...) Regardless I ended up taking the safe route and getting biobloc, which has been a big success for me. I;ve expanded about ~3-4mm so far and my midface is noticeably wider, cheekbones expanded laterally etc. My nasal breathing is notably better now, I used to wake up every day with a stuffed nose (and as the air in my room is dry all the mucus would be dry and I would have to pick at it in order to breath well) and now I never experience that.
I still have another 3mm to go. Since I'm long distance the treatment has been a little more rocky then usual. If I could go back in time I would have learned how to tighten the appliance right from the start. for the first couple months I was not tightening it and as such I had gotten less expansion then I should have and flared out teeth. Since correcting that expansion has been much faster and without flaring.

well it seems to me that 6 times x 10 mins > 1 time x 60 mins when it comes to thumbpulling results

in other words frequency of sets is kinda more important than duration tbh still I'm not sure if that could be as fast as any device... probably not


idk maybe I should have extraction and put an implant instead of my tooth? does it have any cons?

 

[DR. NICKGA]

 

[hopecel]

lifefuel

I hope Balkan dentists practice this

 

[hopecel]

@bean latte @<6PSLcel

thoughts?

 

[<6PSLcel]

Who cared about a fucking decent smile, usseless

it's not just about the smile lil bro

 

[hopecel]

it's not just about the smile lil bro

well it's the main reason since my smile is really really subhuman tier

ik it has an impact on overall posture etc but aesthetics are everything

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

well it's the main reason since my smile is really really subhuman tier

ik it has an impact on overall posture etc but aesthetics are everything

Do you count the teeth in the back shadows when counting how many are in ur smile?

 

[PARISIEN]

isnt with braces fixable? but like it will took like 5 years for fix the whole stuff?

 

[loathe]

which cons would mse have?

 

[hopecel]

Do you count the teeth in the back shadows when counting how many are in ur smile?

obviously not

isnt with braces fixable? but like it will took like 5 years for fix the whole stuff?

they told me it's unfixable with braces

I'll make a thread and post a dental scan soon

which cons would mse have?

nose widening
uncanny lips
upper palate being broader than lower palate
teeth gaps

 

[hopecel]

@sub5pslathlete

 

[sub5pslathlete]

@sub5pslathlete

Don’t get mse
Braces
Or stripping
Teeth removal not bad option

 

[hopecel]

Don’t get mse
Braces
Or stripping
Teeth removal not bad option

if they extracted my premolars on the left side does it automatically mean they will have to do the same on the right side?

what about receding?

also the orhodontist said if they extracted any of these two (either 4th or 5th tooth) it would possibly make the bone weaker and even probably loosen another tooth